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en:grammar:noun_phrases [2022-05-15 10:25] – [Determiners] christianen:grammar:noun_phrases [2022-11-06 22:31] – [Determiners] Mention "xi" in order christian
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   * **ingi** – many, much, a lot, very   * **ingi** – many, much, a lot, very
   * **malo** – few, little   * **malo** – few, little
-  * **xie** – some (a certain, not exactly specified part or proportion of)+  * **xye** – some (a certain, not exactly specified part or proportion of)
  
 The first four quantifiers are also called "short quantifiers" (with just two letters), while the last three are "long quantifiers" (with three or more letters). This distinction is relevant when it comes to the order of determiners within a noun phrase. The first four quantifiers are also called "short quantifiers" (with just two letters), while the last three are "long quantifiers" (with three or more letters). This distinction is relevant when it comes to the order of determiners within a noun phrase.
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   * for **no**: No man is an island   * for **no**: No man is an island
   * for **ol**: All my friends hate her. All visitors must register in advance. We were all alone.   * for **ol**: All my friends hate her. All visitors must register in advance. We were all alone.
-  * for **xie**: Some pupils didn't show up.+  * for **xye**: Some pupils didn't show up.
  
 Numbers such as **un** 'one', **do** 'two', **tri** 'three' can be considered quantifiers when placed before a noun – they will be covered in a [[Numbers|later chapter]]. Numbers such as **un** 'one', **do** 'two', **tri** 'three' can be considered quantifiers when placed before a noun – they will be covered in a [[Numbers|later chapter]].
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   * for **sama**: ?   * for **sama**: ?
  
-Since **eni** and **aru** refer to subgroups rather than expressing quantities, they can be combined with the quantifiers **malo, xie, ingi, yo** as well as with numbers. In such combinations, they are usually placed after **yo** (which, if present, always opens the noun phrase) but before other quantifiers.+Since **eni** and **aru** refer to subgroups rather than expressing quantities, they can be combined with the quantifiers **malo, xye, ingi, yo** as well as with numbers. In such combinations, they are usually placed after **yo** (which, if present, always opens the noun phrase) but before other quantifiers.
  
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 XXX Order – usually at most one element of each group is present: XXX Order – usually at most one element of each group is present:
  
-  * specific/short quantifiers: no, ol, yo+  * specific/short quantifiers: no, ol, xi, yo
   * general selectors: si, ta, ke, eni, aru, kada   * general selectors: si, ta, ke, eni, aru, kada
-  * broad/long quantifiers (malo, xie, ingi) + numbers+  * broad/long quantifiers (malo, xye, ingi) + numbers
   * identity selectors: otra, sama   * identity selectors: otra, sama
  
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 Note that especially **ingi** is also used as an intensifier before other words (verbs, adjectives or adverbs), hence combinations such as **malo ingi** 'very few, very little' or **ingi ingi** 'very many, a very high number of' may occur. Note that especially **ingi** is also used as an intensifier before other words (verbs, adjectives or adverbs), hence combinations such as **malo ingi** 'very few, very little' or **ingi ingi** 'very many, a very high number of' may occur.
  
-Other quantifiers may likewise be used before verbs and other words, e.g. **xie** somewhat.+Other quantifiers may likewise be used before verbs and other words, e.g. **xye** 'somewhat'.
  
 (XXX Probably don't allow/encourage this, as it could be confusing – Other deviations might be read with a **de** between them: (XXX Probably don't allow/encourage this, as it could be confusing – Other deviations might be read with a **de** between them:
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   * **no jen** – no one, nobody, anyone, anybody (in negated sentences)   * **no jen** – no one, nobody, anyone, anybody (in negated sentences)
   * **malo jen** – (a) few people   * **malo jen** – (a) few people
-  * **xie jen** – some people, several people+  * **xye jen** – some people, several people
   * **ingi jen** – many people   * **ingi jen** – many people
   * **ol jen** – everyone, everybody   * **ol jen** – everyone, everybody
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   * **no xos** – nothing, anything (in negated sentences)   * **no xos** – nothing, anything (in negated sentences)
   * **malo xos** – (a) few things   * **malo xos** – (a) few things
-  * **xie xos** – some things, several things+  * **xye xos** – some things, several things
   * **ingi xos** – many things   * **ingi xos** – many things
   * **ol xos** – everything   * **ol xos** – everything
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 Note that when the subject or object of a clause is negated, the verb is negated as well – **eni** is not used in negated sentences: Note that when the subject or object of a clause is negated, the verb is negated as well – **eni** is not used in negated sentences:
  
-**Mi li no miru no jen.** – I didn't see anyone.+**Mi no li miru no jen.** – I didn't see anyone.
  
 Note that the absence of quantifiers does not mean that just one entity is meant. **kat** may mean 'a/the cat' or '(the) cats', depending on context. If you want to unambiguously express the idea of just one cat, say **un kat**; if you want to express that there are two or more, say **yo kat** (or use another suitable quantifier). Note that the absence of quantifiers does not mean that just one entity is meant. **kat** may mean 'a/the cat' or '(the) cats', depending on context. If you want to unambiguously express the idea of just one cat, say **un kat**; if you want to express that there are two or more, say **yo kat** (or use another suitable quantifier).
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 **jen safiri = jen ke safiri** – person who travels = traveler **jen safiri = jen ke safiri** – person who travels = traveler
  
-More on modifier words can be found in the section on [[word formation#spaced compounds]].+More on modifier words can be found in the section on [[word formation#spaced nouns]].
  
 ===== Adjectives ===== ===== Adjectives =====
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 **Mi yau yan hara.** – I want the green one.\\ **Mi yau yan hara.** – I want the green one.\\
-**Yan gran xiende hau.** – The big one looks good.\\+**Yan gran xyende hau.** – The big one looks good.\\
 **Tina [drive car] lal, [while] mi [drive] yan blu.** – Tina drives a red car, while I drive a blue one. **Tina [drive car] lal, [while] mi [drive] yan blu.** – Tina drives a red car, while I drive a blue one.
  
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